> This is not what actually happens in practice. There is no sudden outbreak of productive activity because people have more free time. If this was going to occur there would be mountains of empirical evidence for it by now because this situation isn't rare.

Wrong.

> I know many people with a lot of free time...

Not a valid argument for, or against anything.

You probably mean to say you already know humans are just 'lazy' and the evidence for it is vibes, which is completely and totally sufficient for you but for anyone who thinks otherwise - they better come up with evidence that isn't just vibes.

'We' should stop using the word 'we'. :)

'We' talk is how the pseudo-educated talk down to those other people who are the problem.

Indisputable role in economic precarity, more commonly known as wage slavery.

Economic uncertainty is negatively correlated with market capitalization per capita.

Slavery is positively correlated with market capitalization per capita.

It is not.

It is.

Good talk.

You're factually wrong. Graph any Global Slavery Index against market capitalization per capita -- you get a negative correlation.

You are factually wrong.

'Global slavery index' is not a credible source, even according to Wikipedia.

I'm sorry I spent 2 minutes of my life looking it up - I should've known better.

This conversation is over. I can't trust you to not throw random crap a google search produces that supports your fantasy that I then have to spend brain cells to debunk.

Then pick a different one. Which measure did you use to come to your conclusion?

I suspect you didn't use one at all, because I am not aware of any measure of "slavery" that correlates positively with any measure of investment activity.

Labor practices and protections are much better in countries with high economic investment.

Most everyone will go down the path of least resistance. A few outliers will try to resist, get old and/or tired. A few of the few will reach acceptance, comprehend the serenity prayer. A few of the few of the few will reach enlightenment.

What you do depends on where you're at - statistically, you'll go down the path of least resistance which is totally, totally fine.

> Making up jobs to keep people employed isn't a viable solution to me. Supporting them in some way (re-training, UBI, service work, ...) seems like the only way forward

Everyone works 20 hours/week.

The 'problem' isn't what you think it is. The people in power are worried that lifting the boot off of the neck of the working class may result in loss of power for them.

They are right. Hence the stalemate.

Why even have furniture, you can eat and sleep on the floor. Financially and practically.

Ah, the old “a truly logical cow cannot pick between two identical hay bales and therefore starves to death”

It all falls into place if you contemplate the possibility that there is no US.

There's stock market bros, kill people bros, government welfare bros and some mega business bros.

None of them want to know anything beyond my kids go to private school, get nepo baby job.

This is what humans are capable of - not just in USA, as a species. USA's 'plan' or rather inevitability is to fall apart. China will be the next power and it'll also fall apart, like USSR fell apart and USA is falling apart for the world to see.

Maybe in another few thousand years it'll be different, I doubt it. Read Plato's Republic you're above 140 IQ - it spells it all out so nicely that one you grok it, you need not know much of anything else regarding politics.

I re-read Plato's The Republic.

It's a must read for 0.001% of the population.

> They are unfocused

Stop with the MBA playbook he said.

> just make the...

Just make a superior product he said.