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tc is probably the best console runner there is and I agree, it made CI not suck. It is also possible to make it very fast, with a bit of engineering and by hosting it on your own hardware. Unfortunately it’s as legacy as Jenkins today. And in contrast to Jenkins it’s not open source or free, many parts of it, like the scheduler/orchestrator, is not pluggable.

But I don’t know about competent people, reading their release notes always got me thinking ”how can anyone write code where these bugs are even possible?”. But I guess that’s why many companies just write nonsense release notes today, to hide their incompetence ;)


>Unfortunately it’s as legacy as Jenkins today

Why do you consider TeamCity legacy? The latest release was just 2 months ago: https://www.jetbrains.com/help/teamcity/what-s-new-in-teamci...

>To make TeamCity more approachable for everyone, we’ve launched the pipelines initiative, and are investing heavily in reimagining the familiar UX. Complementing these efforts, we are excited to introduce the TeamCity AI Assistant.

Looks like it's under active development.


Don’t hold your breath.


Agreed. Hope sets you up for disappointment and all that but still, better than nothing at all.


And some companies use it to write start menus.


* open source

* don’t suck (too much)

* no planned rug pulls

* not infested by US or Chinese spyware

Are there any?


Only Matrix.


And XMPP. Which probably will remain a better Matrix than Matrix ever will be, the venture capital put aside, that is.


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