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I don’t know what world you live in but it’s not this one.


Not saying I like the situation, but Firefox usage is about ~2-3%.

That's about where IE 6 and then IE 11 were when everyone was excited they could finally drop them. Why should anyone treat Firefox differently?


People are using Firefox intentionally, vs. using IE because it was preinstalled. Firefox is a maintained browser. IE was hard to support, and Firefox is not. There are a lot of differences.


I'm with you, but I do think the situation can be characterized differently in a couple important ways:

1. IE was the default browser for many users (i.e. anybody using Windows who didn't know better).

2. IE had a lot of bugs and and was often non-compliant with standards.

Those two things combined meant that supporting IE required additional work, and if you didn't put in that work you were going to get users from IE anyway they'd just get frustrated and confused when things broke. So "detect IE and tell them use something else" was at least a reasonable fixed-cost approach to not having users get totally stuck. (And IE went down to 2-3% at least in part because devs revolted against IE earlier and started serving those "don't use IE" messages when its usage was still higher.)

Neither factor is really true of FF. It's not the default for any major platform, its user-base at this point is largely power users who won't be easily confused, and outside of some non-standard APIs most sites don't need and some fairly edge-casey stuff, most sites that work on Chrome will work fine on FF as well without alteration. If anything, IME Safari is more likely to need special attention than FF (but of course Safari has much higher market share so it merits that effort).

So I totally get not wanting to spend QA budget on FF, and I could understand showing a small banner suggesting you use a different browser, but erroring/completely blocking usage of the site does feel excessive to me, and even a bit mean-spirited since it takes extra effort to detect FF to show the message and prevent using the site! I don't think these sites are going out of their way to block usage of other low-usage browsers (some of which can alter behavior that could break some sites even if they are Chromium-based).


You left out the important and main reason, support for ie wasn't dropped - support for IE6 was dropped. At a point in time when it was already long since deprecated by it's maintainer, Microsoft


I didn't realize Firefox's market share had gotten so low. Now I'm sad.


I'm fairly sure the only reason a lot of sites haven't been broken in Firefox for as much as a decade is that fixing your Chrome-first site for Safari tends to fix most of the problems in Firefox, too, and you can't ignore Safari so sites are ~always tested in that as their second target (after Chrome).


Those old IE versions were products of a time when Microsoft was intentionally just making shit up, baking it into their browsers, and releasing stuff like Frontpage to produce garbage, browser-favoring markup. That among various other (often illegal) behaviors designed to destroy competition and capture the web for one company.

When everyone finally had the chance to axe IE support, it made all the sense in the world to do that. But that's not the situation with browsers like Firefox.

As for Apple? Any of their web properties that exist for reasons other than selling hardware are just embarrassingly bad. Have been for years... and their problems have nothing to do with Firefox.


Hey thanks so much! I actually found your site a bit over a year ago while I was redoing my portfolio and used one for my header.


You're welcome. Glad you found something useful!


Omg thank you, I had no idea they added this feature!


Dildos aren’t illegal federally but you can’t sell those using Stripe either. It is actually about puritans wanting to control what you do.


"Quality" and "features you happen to want" are two different things.


It appears he is selling a service where he comes to you (optionally with a Mac Mini which is probably why he's buying multiple) and sets up OpenClaw for you.


That truly cant be it right? This is like satire? How much do you even charge for that?


Unfortunately not satire, and the answer is $500


Yes


I definitely pirated Photoshop around 1996 from the macfilez (possibly zelifcam by then) AOL chat room.


The new version has improved a bit since launch, you may want to give it another try.


I had stopped using it since the private equity buyout because it needs pretty serious permissions to do its job…maybe I’ll give it another look.


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