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Surely you don’t think birds have evolved to sing more complex songs in the time since mass EV adoption?

Birds adapt their song to ambient noise conditions. This paper [1] studies the Pearl River Delta (where Shenzhen is) as a natural experiment. It shows spectral changes in the target species correlating to background noise levels. I haven't looked hard enough to make sure there isn't a study that does find complexity changes but it's certainly clear that noise can affect bird song behavior generally.

[1] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S235198942...


But what if you want Amazon Basics brand batteries or counterfeit health products?


Those references are to the recurring gag with Lucy and the football.

There’s a lot more to the character than that so I hope 99% is an exaggeration and people are still reading Peanuts and watching the various animated versions. I’m pretty sure they are.


> Those references are to the recurring gag with Lucy and the football.

Probably, because that's the most popular example of Charlie Brown as a sucker who never learns, but it's a core part of his character and is shown by many, many other gags. There's also a recurring gag with Lucy and April Fool's Day. There's a whole family of them around baseball and Peppermint Patty. There's another recurring gag where he tries to fly a kite.

The comic can't depict Charlie Brown as able to learn - since he never succeeds,† if he could learn, he'd never do anything at all.

† There are a couple of temporary exceptions. When he runs away from home he meets a gang of littler children who respect him. When he has to wear a paper bag over his head at camp, he becomes a success for the duration.


“No, I didn't know about the exhibit before that day. And then I saw the Al piece and it was just—as an artist myself, it was insulting to see something of such little effort alongside all these beautiful pieces in the gallery. It shouldn't be acceptable for this "art," if you will, to be put alongside these real great pieces.”

What an impulsive fellow.


In art one often follows impulses. Art is about expression after all.

Plus, if these were really AI creations new copies can be printed. Unless the human “co-creator” did something like paint on the work after printing, not much has been damaged.


Someone, somewhere is disappointed they didn't think of the idea of videoing someone eating AI art as an art exhibit first...


Don't take him to the MoMA he'll need his stomach pumped.


The MoMA has some of the best art pieces I've seen out of the hundred plus museums I've been to.

It also has by far some of the absolute worst art pieces I've seen in my life - in person, or otherwise. One of them was literally a pile of trash.

I used to think that art shouldn't have any gatekeepers, but I've begun to wonder if maybe it should.


They're right and this also reminds me of the banana that was sold and eaten at Art Basel.


It's just garbage in garbage out. AIs reliably induce rage and negativity in humans. Humans become angry and violent if shown AI generated data. It's just a fact at this point.

And it's not even like software engineers are special in that regard. Everyone here is quick to spot and express their opinions on use of AI in articles and everyone seem to like to have their words on rampant vibecoded pull requests.

Freedom of thought and speech means you're free to expect people to thank you for spitting on them, and also that nobody else than you would be responsible for that insanity of yours.


> AIs reliably induce rage and negativity in humans. Humans become angry and violent if shown AI generated data. It's just a fact at this point.

This is more conditioning from moral panic mobs than an innate trait. One could also say that TV makes humans angry and violent, or we could simply stop watching cable news.


They're definitely alarmists. In my environment, people are either neutral or positive about the workings of neural networks.

The reason is that they don't read articles critical of AI, and they don't even know about the existence of forums like reddit, for example.


>One could also say that TV makes humans angry and violent

It does

Anderson and Bushman (2002) https://www.researchgate.net/publication/11440811_The_Effect... Evidence is steadily accumulating that prolonged exposure to violent TV programming during childhood is associated with subsequent aggression.

Paik, H., & Comstock, G. (1994). The effects of television violence on antisocial behavior: A meta-analysis. Communication Research, 21(4), 516–546. https://doi.org/10.1177/009365094021004004 Results showed positive and significant correlation between TV violence and aggressive behavior

Ironically I used Gemini to look those up. Being a social studies thing, of course there is no absolute proof of this, there are many caveats and ways of looking etc.

Tangential - "find meta-analysis to back up my point" is ridiculously easy with AI, and it can be used on both sides. I could just as easily negate the ask and get compelling results.

I would hate having to write a dissertation right now.


I think you're agreeing with me. My point is that TV does not inherently induce negative emotions, but the content of it can. Similarly, AI content does not have to do the same, but poor quality AI content can.


Yeah. More importantly though, AI seems to be a novel way to pry open the crazy out of some people, with sometimes disastrous results.

Or putting it more charitably, some people seem to be more vulnerable, for whatever reason, to multiple different kinds of mental breakdowns (like the psychosis described by the "artist" "victimized" by this "crime").

While I personally don't get it (how some people are so entranced by AI as to have mental breakdowns), it does seem to be a thing, with some catastrophic results[1]. Granted in some cases the persons involved had prior serious mental health issues, that seems not to always be the case. In other words, be it not for AI, those people could reasonably have expected to live normal lives.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deaths_linked_to_chatbots


You would not be disagreeing with me, actually. I should have clarified that the problem is somewhere in current implementations of generative AI(Google Transformer derivatives), in my opinion, and is not necessarily the case to every shape and form of AI.

But nearly every single implementation of generative AI data generators appear to exhibit this behavior, with Google Nano Banana(tm) implementation as potential sole exception or lesser offender. Something in it is rage and/or derangement coded, NOT in artistic way that rock or metal music recordings are. Maybe this was what supposed "toxicity" of LLMs discussed heavily as chatbots rolled out remedied by extreme sycophancy to the point that LLMs don't literally flip out people and drive them into state of psychosis. But whatever it is, it's insane that everyone supportive of AI is tone deaf on a phenomenon that obvious, reproducible, and widespread.

All it takes to turn anyone into anti-AI Luddite is to show them a piece of text, image, code, any data that they are familiar with. That's not a simple moral panic.


> One could also say that TV makes humans angry and violent,

yes. It does.


> It shouldn't be acceptable for this "art," if you will,

He didn't even will. Why did he encourage others to? Misguided etiquette.


Maybe he was hungry.


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I continue to be shocked by how hateful and nasty some of you are when someone doesn't wholly approve of AI.


Their salaries depend of it.


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Oh, suddenly we _are_ concerned with intellectual property rights RE AI?

Much as the image models consume the work of artists, so the artist consumes the product of the image model. It is merely natural justice.


yep, the guy ate intellectual property. he sat down and ate a piece of ip, that's what happened. excellent reasoning my clever friend

this is a silly place


It's a piece of paper. I can compensate the damages out-of-pocket 1,000 times over.


Ehh it wasn’t even art, hardly


It’s for when you’re greeting a cute animal.


There’s no need for name-calling.


It means Punk music.


Sounds like anarchy...


Camp Legume may be a reference to this scene from the film Blazing Saddles:

https://youtube.com/watch?v=VPIP9KXdmO0


I don’t think Alamo Drafthouse sold to private equity, but rather to Sony.


They (well, Tim League and friends) sold to Altamont first [^0]. Altamont sold them to Sony last year. [^1]

And the enshittification is already happening. That one of the Drafthouse theaters IN THEIR HOME TURF (Slaughter, outside of Austin) unionized with the UAW and names Sony in their formation letter speaks volumes. [^2]

[^0]: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/03/dine-in-movie-chain-alamo-dr...

[^1]: https://altamontcapital.com/altamont-capital-partners-sells-...

[^2]: https://old.reddit.com/r/AlamoDrafthouse/comments/1jjtssc/al...


What will it do to Jony Ive’s legacy if his OpenAI device is no more successful than Snapchat’s foray into hardware?

If OpenAI becomes an also-ran by the time the hardware is released, this seems like a real possibility no matter how well-designed it is.


> What will it do to Jony Ive’s legacy if his OpenAI device is no more successful than Snapchat’s foray into hardware?

Well, in my opinion his legacy is already pretty tarnished by his last few years at Apple, his Love From company, and his partnership with OpenAI. If he somehow knocks it out of the park with OpenAI (something I don’t think will happen nor do I want it to) then maybe he can redeem himself a little bit but, again IMHO, he is already about as low as he can go. Whatever respect I had left for him vanished after the OpenAI/IO announcement video.


Not sure what you mean. His legacy to date is ruining the iphone because he couldn’t think of anything to do beyond “thinner”.


Did he come up with the butterfly keyboard as well?


I remember gift cards originally being novel in the early 2000’s because they could be swiped like a credit card for purchases, unlike gift certificates, which they replaced.

If you had a girlfriend in the late 80s, I don’t see how police could have been bribed with gift cards as long as you can remember.

I should also add that I myself have never heard of it being common to bribe SF cops with gift cards, in any decade.


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