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Perhaps the problem is that you RL on one patch a time, failing to capture the overarching long term theme, an architecture change being introduced gradually over many months, that exists in the maintainer’s mental model but not really explicitly in diffs.

While at the same other companies have built entire business lines around fixing shit code(probably with more of the same though).


Which companies?


It doesn't matter, neither of those scenarios makes the effort impressive in this case. The vibe coded thing might even be useful - that does not make it impressive though. Effort does.


This is what I think a lot of the people who advocate for 'AI generated images being art' don't get. There's no effort or intentionality into what's being created; it has the look and appearance of 'polished art' (that breaks down when you look closer) but behind it is nothing.

It's also why AI generated code is a nightmare to read and deal with, because the intention behind the code does not exist. Code outputting malformed input because it was a requirement two years ago, a developer throwing in a quick hack to fix a problem, these are things you can divine and figure out from everything else.


> The vibe coded thing might even be useful - that does not make it impressive though.

Then "impressive" shouldn't even be the benchmark. If someone gifted me $10K, I'm not going to care if they earned it in a competition or won it in a lottery. Value is value. I'm gratefully accepting it and not being snobby about it. I couldn't care less about how "impressive" anything is if it's useful to me.


But "impressive" is not a benchmark, it's a human reaction. I care about being impressed, as do many people.


This is the myth of the Protestant work ethic; that effort matters, not outcome.


Orphaned or as Peter Naur wrote in 1985(https://pages.cs.wisc.edu/~remzi/Naur.pdf), dead programs :)


Autolands absolutely do exist.


You know what is an insult? Supermarket on my street putting on display sloppy ads with ramen bowl that has 3 different thickness chopsticks and cartoon characters with scrambled faces. Now that is an insult, because there was a human being doing that job, and I am sure there was a great "productivity boost" related to that change.

I am a heavy AI user myself, and sure as hell I am not putting my foot in that place again.


I think these pictures are a perfect and accessible metaphor for the problems of vibecoding slop and asking an actual engineer to fix it.

The end results evokes a sense of unease even in laymen, and the more you know about the subject matter, the more wrong it looks..

And 'fixing' it essentially requires as much if not more effort as writing it from scratch.


AI derived piece arguing with another AI derived piece about AI. It's slop all the way down.


Is that even possible? Last time I checked it wasn't, while it was possible with OpenAI. Since that moment(early this year) - OpenAI has removed that option and their "Project budget" feature turned from being a hard limit into an email notification.


Is it the first one priced reasonably and transparently, or am I missing something here?


Don't forget about the "ChatGPT 5 Pro" too :) which is a bit like Deep Research but not quite?


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