Clickup is kinda like this (trash software btw) where it combines all these things. Its super cumbersome to deal with all of them in the same UI. For example, you will be chatting with someone, need to look at ticket, you have to completely leave the context of the chat to find the ticket. Yeah you can have multiple tabs, but still cumbersome. Would rather have a chat app for chat, documentation in documentation... so on.
That's exactly how I feel Teams want's me to use it. It's just... dumb, all those "apps" that are integrated, but in reality it's just another super heavy website that you can't easily jump into/out of.
Could you elaborate on what makes Clickup "trash software", is it something specific to Clickup or your opinion around this entire "class" of all-in-one workspace?
ClickUp is known to be extremely slow and buggy, in a way that technical people can infer is a reflection of their mission to literally do everything an organization needs.
Who ever built a piece of quality software by setting out to build multiple otherwise unrelated pieces of software with extremely tight coupling to satisfy enterprise bargain hunting?
> Who ever built a piece of quality software by setting out to build multiple otherwise unrelated pieces of software with extremely tight coupling to satisfy enterprise bargain hunting?
Apparently Lotus Notes did something like that, but I wasn’t around then so I can’t speak to the veracity of that claim.
we evaluated them in 2023, because we wanted to move off JIRA, and their name came up, and we did the initial import, and I spent some time trying to understand what's where and how, and the whole experience was lame. it was aggressively confidently pushing its own features (always be upselling!) but the basics were just not there. It's like Microsoft.
We moved to Linear, which is 2 years younger than ClickUp, but it's solid in what it offers.
When even my "boomer" aged and non-tech savvy dad who has always used an iPhone notices the update is bad, I think you are in at least a little bit of trouble if you don't quickly course correct.
By having fewer pixels, lower quality screens? Crazy what you can do when you cut corners.
This screen reminds of when I did tech support in high school and I helped a guy who bragged about his computer monitor, it was a TV running at 720p (if not lower) and a massive screen. The windows start bar was hilariously large (as were all UI elements), I had to just smile and nod until I got out of there.
Sure, your screen may be bigger but it's blurry and everything is scaled way too large.
The HiDPI/Retina bullshit is just bullshit. I've been running a 4K 43" 4:3 display at 100% scaling since 2018. It is neither blurry nor scaled too large. It can, however, comfortably fit 10 A4 pages simultaneously. Or 4 terminals + a browser + a PDF reader.
My arithmetic nodule is having a konniption fit. Does not compute. If this is 16:9 and you mistook your aspect ratio I can breathe again. √2:1 says 1.41:1 isn't 1.33:1
10 A4 pages do not fill a 4:3 or 3:4 aspect ratio box. They don't fill a 16:9 box either but it's more plausible, the wastage is different.
So apparently this has been around for 15 years? I would have bought this years ago, but it never showed up on any of my searches... google, reddit, producthunt, alternativeto... feel like I just shifted into another dimension where this has apparently... always existed?
That's why marketing/distribution/sales is very important. As a developer most of us think if we build a good product everyone will start using it, which is very wrong in 99% of the cases.
Purchasing decisions. If Gartner doesn’t claim you’re a Leader, then a massive chunk of your addressable market is not unlockable for you. This may be fine for now, but eventually when your investors demand accelerated revenue curves (and you’re not an AI coding tool), then you’ll be talking to Gartner and praying they place you high. Full stop.
Separately, they offer consulting with their analysts. A lot of these consultants are quite knowledgeable. They also are usually there to help a leader make a purchasing decision.
I would assume it's because they've already won the younger market via near total dominance in the k-12 education sector, so no reason to advertise to that crowd.
I don't know how large of a concern this is, but Amazons wide growth allows using revenue from their higher profit sectors (such as aws) to force out competitors in other lower margin sectors they are involved with such as grocery stores. This also may very well be a strategy other large conglomerates utilize.
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