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I get "This site can’t be reached"

You haven't missed much.

We went through a very similar migration. Had a Next.js landing page and a separate TanStack Router SPA - consolidated both into a single Vite + TanStack Start app. Same experience with build times and the architecture mismatch: our app is heavily client-side with real-time state, and fighting Next.js's server-first assumptions wasn't worth it. TanStack Router's type-safe routing and file-based route generation have been great.

I hadn't heard of TanStack but a quick look at their website doesn't inspire confidence tbh. I mean, just take "TanStack Pacer".

It provides such things as:

```

import { Debouncer } from '@tanstack/pacer' // class

const debouncer = new Debouncer(fn, options)

debouncer.maybeExecute(args) // execute the debounced function

debouncer.cancel() // cancel the debounced function

debouncer.flush() // flush the debounced function

```

Why? Just why do you need to install some "framwork" for implement debouncing? Isn't this sort of absurdism the reason why the node ecosystem is so insecure and vulnerable in the first place? Just write a simple debouncer using vanilla js...


Not to feed the trolls, but you responded to a comment about TanStack Start (a full-stack metaframework) by denigrating @tanstack/pacer -- a separate, niche utility published by the same team.

You're entitled to your opinions, but I'm happy to defend the rationale of leveraging battle-hardened, rigorously-tested, open-source, type-safe libraries instead of DIY cowboy vanilla js spaghetti.


Obviously it's more than just debouncing. https://tanstack.com/pacer/latest/docs/overview

That's putting it mildly!

TanStack started out by providing a very good JS table library. Now they offer a Router, and some more libs. They are definitely an up and coming name in the JS space.

That's... not quite right.

[EDIT] I typed "Router" when I meant "Query".

TanStack Query is the relatively newer name for React Query -- one of the most popular JS libraries of all time.

TanStack Start is a recent metaframework (and the one w/ the brightest future, IMO), but Tanner and team have profoundly significant bona fides. IOW, the dev team is far from being the "new kids on the block".


Do you have a source for TanStack Router being a newer name for React Router? Doesn't seem like it when looking at the sites for both projects.

Are you thinking of the whole Remix/ReactRouter thing?


(facepalm)

Thank you, but no. I typed "Router" when I meant "Query". TanStack Query is the newer name for the library FKA react-query.

TanStack Router is an alternative to React Router.

TanStack Start is an alternative to Remix/react-router-7's framework mode.

The naming history and evolution of react-router and its relationship to Remix is a bit convoluted, but an unrelated tangent to the point I was making.


That's... not quite right :)

React Router, which belongs to Remix, which was acquired by Shopify, is here: https://github.com/remix-run/react-router

Tanstack Router is an entirely new router.


Thanks yes I know, I typed "Router" meaning "Query", noted in a peer comment. sigh.

Nah, they are the next toy for the magpie developers, now that Next.js is no longer cool.

Oddly similar to the novel "The Proving Ground" by Michael Connely.


I cannot agree more. The battery not even lasting a day is what prevents me from using it. When I want to go for a run with it, it's always out of battery.


I had this exact problem with my Apple Watch. My family got me an Ultra as a gift, and I really didn't think I was going to use it (I didn't even want it), but it ended up being a total gamechanger, and now the Ultra is my favorite gadget and a huge motivator to get into better shape.


My Apple Watch is now so old that it’s unsupported by new WatchOS, but the battery still lasts a day without problem. It probably helps that I disabled the always on screen. Lasting all day has never been a problem, though.


Do you use it for workouts, especially for longer periods everyday? I’m a constant Apple Watch user and workout everyday, but I do find the battery life lacking when I’m out on hikes for a few hours. My watch is only a few years old and is supported for watchOS upgrades.

My guess is that the sensors use a lot of energy (even when the display is normally off) and that the longer one uses it for workouts within a day (with the sensors continuously on [1]) and the older the watch is, the lower the battery life.

[1]: there is a setting to in the workout app to reduce the frequency of GPS and heart rate readings during walking, running and hiking workouts when low power mode is also turned on


Does not work on Chrome, and actually freezes the tab


Works fine in Chrome on both my W11 and MacOS 15.7.2 machines.


google on linux does not support webgpu. (its hidden behind some flags) https://github.com/gpuweb/gpuweb/wiki/Implementation-Status


That linked page says webgpu is behind a flag in Firefox for Android but the website worked for me.


FF on linux worked great.


On Edge, my tab did freeze for a few seconds then the spinner resumed its spinning and the 3D scene displayed.


Worked for me on Windows with Version 142.0.7444.177 (Official Build) (64-bit)


It was very laggy for me in Firefox on Windows, but played smoothly in Chrome.


I had to load the site a second time in Firefox to get it working. So, try again?


Worked very well for me on iPad Pro and Safari. Only took a few secs to load.


Just be patient. It took a while to load up in Chrome on my MBP.


People are discovering what it is to download an app (:


Or they're discovering the limitations of Chrome.

It showed up very quickly on my desktop rig. Linux, Firefox, with a CPU that's over a decade old, a GPU of about half that age, and the cheapest Internet that Spectrum will sell me.

Just a second or three of a weird luminescent throbber, and then "Click here to start". No inexplicable lags at all -- it was all very smooth.


Same for me. Worked smoothly in Firefox (MacOS Desktop)


Worked fine on Chrome on Linux (Fedora)


Works fine on Chrome using Fedora 43.


The website doesn’t work on mobile


Same on Chrome and Safari on mac


The demo credentials return 401 Uncaught Error


same here, but you just have to try once or twice more, then it worked for me


Sorry, this is folks logging in and changing the password. Should have seen this coming :hide:. Instance gets reset every 60min. Not great but something to improve


"It doesn't currently ship with any language bindings"

Rust is needed to use SlateDB at the moment


is-odd [1] has even more weekly downloads (370k+) and is the only dependency of is-even [2].

[1]: https://www.npmjs.com/package/is-odd [2]: https://github.com/i-voted-for-trump/is-even/blob/585f8002bb...


That's odd


It's even called odd, what a coincidence


Coincidences are verified using the == operator, independent of the is-odd package.


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