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The only thing DoH gives anybody .. is even more of your private data to a centralized provider with questionable ethics, and the only company more ethically questionable than Google is Palantir. Run your own local resolver and move on with your life.


> ... private data to a centralized provider with questionable ethics

What, like your ISP?


Not everybody lives in the US. I trust my ISP. They are cool, and their handling of my data is regulated under the GDPR and other laws. CloudFlare? Not so much.


I am also not in the US. However, everywhere I look I see large ISPs with questionable ethics who are centralized providers of DNS.

I'm struggling to see why DoH means "is even more of your private data to a centralized provider with questionable ethics", which is what the OP said.


Mozilla is rolling this out in the US, where there are few ISPs across the nation.


Rather than putting real effort into this, I'm just going to say that Paul Vixie, the creator of DNS, advocates for using a local resolver (not your ISP's resolver), and DNSSEC. The internet is supposed to be decentralized, not centralized.

Cloudflare, Google, and all of these other centralized dns/ntp services are hazardous to our health.

I'm sure you're very knowledgable, but if Paul gives DNS advice, listen to him.


> Rather than putting real effort into this

Ah, you're too busy to make the case. Aren't we all.

> DNSSEC. The internet is supposed to be decentralized, not centralized.

DNSSEC centralises the DNS system with governments.

> Cloudflare, Google, and all of these other centralized dns/ntp services are hazardous to our health.

Saying it doesn't make it so.

> I'm sure you're very knowledgable, but if Paul gives DNS advice, listen to him.

I'm familiar with Paul's view. Given that most people can't or won't run a local resolver, how does it help?


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> Really kid.

Lol.

> https://encrypted-dns.org .. setup dns correctly, teach your friends and colleagues to do it

Gosh, I had no idea it was this simple. Let me get onto the job of teaching the entire world something immediately! We should also tell all the folks at the IETF and the EFF that we've solved the privacy problem!

> Google is the bad guy, and Cloudflare is on their way to that realm

Repeating this still doesn't make it so.


Excellent. Now tell me, what is your financial situation? This property is a prime piece of New York manhattan, bridging New York's best burroughs. It has several rooms, some hidden doors which the kids will love, and you can't beat the commute. You can walk to either Manhattan or Brooklyn in 20 minutes. It even has beach front access and a diving board!

Now tell me your financial status and your credit rating. Actually, I'll just ask Google, they already know.


You cannot rationalize with Ayn Rand fetishists when it comes to sensible housing policies, and sadly, that makes up about 80% of Ycombinator people.


The kind of people who move to San Francisco from new york or connecticut, or wherever, to get rich then immediately start complaining that San Francisco isn't like wherever it is they immigrated from.


Whenever I read "NIMBY", I already know the person is a caucasian, male, 20-40 something white tech/finance bro complaining about rent, spewing out wildly inaccurate numbers (some YCbros claim that rent is $7500 per month for a 1br in the tenderloin), and expressing their sense of entitlement for San Francisco to be exactly like whatever boring town they migrated from.


When they came for the trade unionists, I didn't speak out ...


You're absolutely right. That's why there are so few jobs, businesses, universities, or cultural attractions in the bay. Nobody lives there anymore.


> California loves making bandaid state fixes to federal problems, I think this is the wrong way to go.

You just hit the nail on the head. The real problem is that California is grossly under-represented in government, thanks to the founding fathers and gerrymandering. We have to slap together these hacks because otherwise we would wait centuries to get any real change out of the Fed.

As for "USA's democracy", screw the USA and its' democracy. As a Californian, I care about California's democracy, not the GOP's federalist plutocracy.

Republikans look at California as a rich man to mug who won't fight back. These laws are how we fight back. The USA needs us, we don't need them.


How does gerrymandering affect California's representation at the Federal level? And the makeup of the Senate? It's that darn constitution again :-)


If you really don't understand how gerrymandering screws over our democracy, then you're not worth responding to.

The fact is a state with 38 million people and a GDP equivalent to 20% of the nation should have more representation than moscow mitch's welfare state of kentucky.


That's not related to gerrymandering though, which is why I think the post you're replying to is confused.

The unfairly low representation of large states in the Senate is a huge issue, but it's not what "gerrymandering" means.


Forgive my wording, gerrymandering is the primary tool used by the GOP to control the USA. It's their strongest tool to cheat their way into elections, we've seen that clearly in North Carolina, Ohio, Pennsylvania, and Georgia.

If we actually followed the spirit and intentions of the founding fathers, then California would already be grossly under-represented. Add to that the way the GOP rigs the elections via gerry-mandering and . voter suppression, and Californians are treated like slaves, not citizens.

They have all forgotten the battle cry of the republic, "NO TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION".

#calexit


Because Gerrymandering is how the GOP maintains control of the country. Republican, Democrat, Libertarian, or other, we should see that as the biggest attack on our democracy.

When the GOP owns the senate, as they do, they attack California's sovereignty at every opportunity. We are net-givers to the federal budget, whereas moscow mitch is a welfare queen whose state is the biggest net-begger.

Our wealth, our culture, our environment are all under attack by a nation of right-wing christian terrorists who resent that us Californian libtards have created the wealthiest, most successful and productive society the world has ever known .. while all they do is shoot guns.

#calexit


"the Fed" almost always refers to the US Federal Reserve. I think you meant we would wait centuries to get any real change out of the US Federal government, AKA "the Feds".


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