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If it keeps hurting, it should keep being mentioned. When things that hurt are turned into silence, then things don't change that can stop hurt.

I understand your point though, and I'm sorry if it came off as an attack. It's a criticism rooted in a few things. I typed up more here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=24601665



Mentioning it would be helpful if this was something the relevant scientific community wasn’t already keenly aware of. “We don’t have all-encompassing definitions nor tests of self-awareness” isn’t something people have forgotten— it’s virtually the most well-known open question in the entire field!

It’s like popping into a discussion of general relativity and “helpfully” chiming in with the criticism that “But we know GR must be wrong, since it’s incompatible with quantum mechanics.”


Fair enough - however I haven’t heard the scientific community talk much of this problem. The unfortunate side of gated communities and information.

I will be more mindful of my ranting. Thanks for sharing.


I mean, would you go around reminding your friends of their shortcomings and then reminding them how helpful your feedback is?

Sometimes people are well aware of the problems and are actively trying to solve them.


I won’t remind them of my feedback but I’d never give up on telling them where they should improve.




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