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Inconvenient to who? There a many things in Linux that anyone who doesn’t use Linux full time finds majorly inconvenient, a lot of the UX around Linux is only intuitive to the 45 year old graybeard. To us 30 year old win DevOps guys Linux isn’t actually that “convenient” out of the box.


They were talking about development of the Linux kernel, not using the OS. But I also take issue with your “graybeard” comment. Unix has won out for a reason, I and many other who aren’t old hats prefer the flow of development and deployment on Linux/Unix to that of Windows.


I’m sorry, I use that as a term of endearment. The GP appeared to me to be implying that those who work on Linux prefer convenience I was just remarking that convenience doesn’t always equal ease of use for most ppl.


Especially in the frontend world it all seems to be unix command line.


> Unix has won out

Nop, it doesn’t. Linux, which is a Unix clone, has won on some category of computers (notably servers) but most unices derivativing from the original one have a marginal market share.

> for a reason

Price mostly, and access to sources.


Mac is still certified Unix iirc, and FreeBSD powers at least Netflix, so it seems Unix proper is still sticking around.


> To us 30 year old win DevOps

There's your problem right there. If you expect unix models to follow the particular broken-by-design failures of Windows on the server then that's the problem.

Unix models have their own broken-by-design crap, and it is different to the one you know :-)


19 year old DevOps/Sysadmin here, gonna have to disagree.

I can work with Windows, but I hate every second of it. Meanwhile, Linux/BSD is intuitive and easy to get going.

Almost like what tools you know impact what you find easy.


Can I ask what’s intuitive about a UX that hides all functionality behind cryptic commands that require reading the mind of the person who made them to know which three letters correspond to the acronym of the command you’re trying to run?


Perhaps intuitive is the wrong word.

Once you are familiar with it, it is easy to continue using, and much faster than fumbling around in a GUI trying to find the magic button.

For most commands it's also easy to find the necessary subcommand via man or -h or whatever. The other big thing is scriptability, there's a number of things I find myself doing a few times a day, I can throw that in a script (about a minute to do for most of them) and now they take .5 seconds to do, versus waiting for a GUI to load/run -- Plus, now it's my stupid 3 letter acronym I need to remember :P .




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