> I wonder if we'll ever really have something like that on top of Nix or NixOS.
Xe, go do it! (:
In all seriousness, Fly.io has explored this path (and very well may pursue it depending on RoI of going down this route, I'd imagine): https://github.com/superfly/recco
Even though I'd like Fly.io to be more like Heroku, it is railway.app that comes the closest (but I believe they use buildpacks like Fly.io does rather than Nix/NixOS).
Speaking of Nix, shout out to replit (https://blog.replit.com/nix) for having a holistic view of the product and it is unlike anything I've ever seen before. And unsurprisingly, most junior developers that I interact with, prefer replit over other alternatives.
I've been considering doing something like that but I am not at a point in my life to be risky like that. When I have permanent residency or citizenship in Canada maybe, but until then I'm happy to just be an IC at Tailscale and write out these articles on my blog as the spirit moves me.
Perhaps need to convince apenwarr et al that tailscale was originally meant to solve the long tail of software development, and not just fix the internet ;)
Agree that railway is the most promising "next-gen" heroku-like - between multi-service apps, opinionated pipelines, and the add-ons - they have got the basics right!
replit is the most holistic and unique product in the broader category. from dev to prod with laser focus on getting the experience right. But for enterprise or startup teams that needs dev/qa/CICD/testing etc it's still a bit too downmarket. And many people still want an escape hatch from the cloud IDE, or at least to use VSCode.
Coherence (www.withcoherence.com) is trying to deliver a replit-like experience for those teams. It's a new category that confuses Cloud IDE, PasS, infra-as-code and more. But in general it's obvious to us that the future looks more like replit than like anything else out there! In line with the idea that most new/junior devs want to work this way as well.
I just took a look at Fly.io, but one thing I liked about Heroku was the fixed pricing; for a small site I could know for sure exactly how much I'd be paying (or not paying) each month. Fly.io looks good for an actively-monitored business product that wants to scale and is trying to be really efficient with spending, but doesn't look so good for a fire-and-forget website that gets updated once a month or less.
For websites, you're looking at Vercel, Netlify, or Cloudflare Pages. I use the latter and the breath of Cloudflare's platform is impressive and keeps growing every day!
Xe, go do it! (:
In all seriousness, Fly.io has explored this path (and very well may pursue it depending on RoI of going down this route, I'd imagine): https://github.com/superfly/recco
Even though I'd like Fly.io to be more like Heroku, it is railway.app that comes the closest (but I believe they use buildpacks like Fly.io does rather than Nix/NixOS).
Speaking of Nix, shout out to replit (https://blog.replit.com/nix) for having a holistic view of the product and it is unlike anything I've ever seen before. And unsurprisingly, most junior developers that I interact with, prefer replit over other alternatives.
Heroku may be dead, but an entire range of upstarts have risen up in its wake: https://www.swyx.io/cloud-distros