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I think 2016 it was already widely known by the industry it was going to be very difficult compared to what Tesla was saying, especially without the handicaps they imposed on themselves. No one with knowledge took Tesla's timeline seriously

> Clearly even level 4 autonomy is far beyond what any near future technology is capable of

I've always been pessimistic about FSD but I think it'd pretty hard to reconcile that quote with actual L4 deployments by Waymo and Cruise



They also have remote operators standing by who jump in when the car gets confused tho…


That's the definition of L4, and the reason Waymo isn't L5. L5 is no human in the loop is ever necessary.


> actual L4 deployments

In some of the cities with the easiest driving conditions in the world.


An easy city is still a city.

Only the low end of L4 is being reached right now, but that's massively better than "far beyond what any near future technology is capable of".


I wouldn’t call San Francisco easy…


Apart from SF, they have also started testing in LA.


Yes. And that's L4 and it exists




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