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> They gave themselves an advantage and removed competitors for commercial reasons.

Which competitor has been “removed”?

> Regulate tightly what apple/google are allowed to do with their stores (e.g. like a common carrier)

So there shouldn’t be any rules are quality controls on what should be allowed?

> The elected EU legislative took some points from both approaches AFTER the free market failed to implement a meaningful competition for central app stores.

Yes, the EU is the model of smart regulations when it comes to tech. That’s the reason that it has such a thriving tech ecosystem.



>Yes, the EU is the model of smart regulations when it comes to tech. That’s the reason that it has such a thriving tech ecosystem.

I don't think the (perhaps perceived) lack of entrepreneurship in the EU should be taken as a sign of regulation overreach to protect privacy. Seems liked a red herring in this conversation


The reality is simply that the EU is just not competitive in pretty much any of these industries. I'm actually struggling to think of any industry at all where EU has produced the market leaders.


In Software, I can think of Music Streaming and ERP.

Outside of Software, aeroplanes and luxury goods come to mind.


> That’s the reason that it has such a thriving tech ecosystem.

By "market leaders" you mean the very many American companies fuelled by unlimited investor money that lose billions of dollars a year with no chance of ever turning a profit?


Or maybe the top five most valuable tech companies - Microsoft, Apple, Amazon, Facebook, Google.

Even if that’s the case, why aren’t investors willing to invest in EU tech companies at the same level?


Hitory, lax laws (esp. around consumer protection) etc.

On top of that the US is a rather homogenous market with a single language vs. 27 conuntries with 27 different languages (in reality more) and quite a difference in local laws (even if all are compliant with EU-wide laws). IIRC there's also an expectation in Europe that companies should actually turn a profit at one point (though with influx of American money this is starting to change, too).

You still get ASML and Infineon, SAP, Adyen, Amadeus etc.




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