Pretty sure HN is one of the worst places to talk about design on the internet because its population seems oddly averse to the concept, tends to deride it as the useless whimsy of decoration-obsessed simpletons, and in general has nothing valuable to say about it except for its own obsessions with nostalgia-inspired tech aesthetics.

It would be okay if it were just that, but coupled with the classic god-complex engineer attitude blaming every problem in the world on designers (you're a "manager"? take your number, you're next) it just makes for a very cringe experience for anyone who cares about design discourse.