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We have very different definitions of cesspool.

While it is finding humor in a horrible situation, a Rust joke is not attacking race, creed, gender, etc as is so common from the internet dregs.

Edit: the above has now been edited to note slurs which was not previously present. At the time the quoted joke was only “Rust devs did it”



> Rust joke is not attacking race, creed, gender

I know it isn't worded that way and you didn't mean it that way but if you look at the stats it technically is https://blog.rust-lang.org/images/2024-02-rust-survey-2023/w...


No it's not. It's "attacking" behavior (real or imagined) that's specific to the subgroup of "Rust developers".

If I say "murderers suck", and 85% of murderers happen to be men, am I "attacking" men as a group?


>If I say "murderers suck", and 85% of murderers happen to be men, am I "attacking" men as a group?

No, but what's disgusting is that both sides of the argument will come up with different reasons why it's not.


I would consider that statistic meaningless without seeing the question.

For starters, I don't see "I don't consider myself a member of a minority or under represented group".


A THIRD of all Rust devs are trans?


No, only 5% (31% out of 17%) out of people who participate in DEI surveys, see full post https://blog.rust-lang.org/2024/02/19/2023-Rust-Annual-Surve...


Yes but that mostly includes those who've attached themselves to fashionable identity groups, and not just the much, much smaller number of those medically diagnosed, the latter of whom aren't just following a trend.


It's still striking. The national average of people self-identifying as trans/non-binary is only 1.6%: https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/06/07/about-5-o...

Even if you only compare with the 18-29 demographic, where the prevalence is higher at 5.6%, it's still 6x as high in the Rust community.


Transitioned from C.

The percentage is greater but few will admit to it.


Nonsense. People are born to use only two kinds of programming languages: either those which everyone complains about, or those which no one else uses. Never the twain shall meet.


Even TypeScript Exclusionary Rabid FORTRAN coders have 'experimented' with Haskell after dark.


Only 1300 answers though, so that's a very small percentage of rust users


1300 is a nice sample size if you're sampling randomly.

If 1/3 of people have a trait, you'll get a good sense it's common after asking 300 people, even if the total population is a million. Surveying more gives diminishing returns as the result quickly converges on the real proportion.

The real problem with all surveys is the sampling isn't truly random, which skews results.


That's a 2.7% margin of error (1/sqrt(1300)).




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