I’m not sure how or when, but it seems inevitable that college sports will be split off into club teams or some kind of minor leagues.
For the big sports like football, the college part seems barely relevant to the sport, it’s mostly just a logo and color scheme. The players don’t even go to most classes, it’s online, and there are full-time tutors assisting with every assignment. When they do have to physically attend class, someone drives them there on a golf cart, in order to minimize time spent on academic work. It’s not at all a normal college experience.
I don't really see this happening just because of how closely sports ties in with the identity of the schools. I don't see them ever giving that up. As a graduate of a school with a massive football program, I don't want them to.
It would also mean the death of most college sports in general and sports like rowing or field hockey might just cease to exist (at the level they're currently played) since they won't have sports like football and basketball paying for them.
I'm not sure it's important that all of the athletes have a "normal" college experience. Just that they leave school prepared to be productive members of society.
Perhaps some sports would go away, but I don’t see that at universities in other countries. The level of competition and facilities are not nearly as nice as what D1 schools have, but places like Cambridge University have 75 sports clubs.
I do think it’s inevitable that what are functionally professional sports teams will split from their university namesakes. There’s nothing logically linking the two except that’s how it’s been. A factor that might accelerate the split is that it would expand the talent pool beyond players eligible for college admission.
Most of those 75 sports clubs are a handful of people with a bag of equipment. Even the one sport that is regularly televised is nothing near any US counterparts in terms of organization or resources.
The problem in the US is that the sports are already glued to the academic institutions, and it would seem impossible for all of them to separate at once.
The evolution of sports in Europe has been very different. The professional teams in Europe are also talent development centres. Man U, Bayern, Barcelona, they all have junior teams that are run by the same organization. They keep in touch with local grassroots teams, and nothing is attached to an academic institution. If you're a serious football player in Europe, you don't go to Cambridge. It's already too late by the time you are thinking of applying to university, which regardless doesn't care at all about athletic performance.
I’m also not sure how to get a meaningful number of teams to separate at once. Perhaps if rules were changed to allow college teams to play club/minor league teams? Sports only organizations might eventually have enough of an advantage that it creates a prisoner’s dilemma situation.
College football is arguably the second biggest sport in the entire US.
I mean I can completely understand the argument that it makes no sense but it is hard for an outsider to understand what something like Ohio State vs Michigan or Alabama vs Auburn in football means for those communities.
To say it is inevitable they split is just not understanding what these teams mean to the people and communities involved.
There is just something fun and additionally communal about the college sports team that isn't replicated by a professional team.
The biggest feature though is that it makes the teams temporary structures that are always changing because the kids graduate. That is something that would be really hard to replicate in a professional sports league. 3-4 years and then you are kicked out of the league. That doesn't work.
I see no reason why those hobbies should not have their participants fund them themselves. Or get some direct donations from alumni. Or raise funds somehow.
That's why I added the qualifier "at the level they're currently played" because right now those sports all get access to extremely high level facilities that simply wouldn't exist without cash cow sports like football.
What's the rationale for funding those niche sports?
Mostly if a university gets some extra no-strings-attached funding it will set up a new research lab or endow a new chair or build new buildings or perhaps just stick it in the bank or give all the senior administrators a raise.
They could get this windfall money by cutting funding to rowing, but they don't. Is it somehow advantageous to invest sports money back into sports?
I know there's a mandate through Title IX to fund women's sports, and sometimes they have to be pretty creative to find "sports" they can spend enough money on that engage the women students, but that doesn't explain what I'm asking about.
> What's the rationale for funding those niche sports?
You've been capitalism-pilled. Sometimes it's worth funding things that "aren't worth funding". Not everything needs to return an easily measurable 10% YoY. Investing in the richness of experience for your population or student body or community is a good thing, even if it doesn't always pay itself back in an obvious way. Well-rounded people are happier, more resilient, and yes, more productive.
Don't blow the whole budget on underwater basket-weaving, but investing a bit in enrichment and supporting niches is an important part of life.
Yes. University is not a place to fund amateur that is student productions of either. If they teach, ofc students should get the facilities they pay for.
I’m not currently enrolled, but if my school sold the football team to a private investor, I’d take exactly the same action as I would if private equity bought the company I work at. That’s odious.
For whatever it's worth, baseball is actually headed in the opposite direction: the cut in the MLB draft to 20 rounds has made college baseball more important at the elite levels, not less. That, coupled with the fact that schools can't relocate/threaten to relocate (Rays, White Sox and especially my fellow A's fans know this pain!) makes being a college baseball fan easier.
That's perfectly sensible. While there are notable exceptions who have made it work, there aren't enough hours in the day to be an elite athlete and get a good education. Full contact sports add the danger of injury. If you want to put on a show pay the people in the show for their time and risk.
Nonsense. Many of the sports teams at NCAA D1 schools have average GPAs and graduation rates higher than the student body as a whole. There are plenty of hours in the day to do both, it's just that most college students are lazy and have terrible time management skills. Student athletes are forced to be more disciplined, and they also have dedicated academic advisors to help keep them on track.
For the big sports like football, the college part seems barely relevant to the sport, it’s mostly just a logo and color scheme. The players don’t even go to most classes, it’s online, and there are full-time tutors assisting with every assignment. When they do have to physically attend class, someone drives them there on a golf cart, in order to minimize time spent on academic work. It’s not at all a normal college experience.