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The Netflix thing is the only one stopping me, really. I love the idea of voice commands (if they work smoothly) and combining my OTA channels with my games. I'm willing to pay an extra $100 for what I assume (and will wait to see verified) will be a much better cohesive media experience than the PS4 that includes those two things. By pay an annual fee for Netflix on top of what I pay Netflix? Never.

I also don't care about the always-semi-on Kinect.



pay an annual fee for Netflix on top of what I pay Netflix? Never.

Same here! Also, I'm a casual gamer and I go months...YEARS without playing video games. I do not want another subscription that I'm going to forget about. I had an Xbox 360, but I never paid for the Gold service - so the only online gaming in my house is done on my PC workstation.

I will probably get a PS4 this time around.


Consider the WiiU. Netflix support and Video Chat, new games that neither system can do.

WiiU + PC will probably get you more coverage than PS4 + PC. As far as I can tell anyway...


All consoles have exclusive games so every single one has "new games that neither system can do", however Wii U has the weakest third party support so it won't get most of the games either system can do. It's a current generation system so it will get some multi-plat still coming into this gen, otherwise it's pretty much Nintendo first party titles all the way.


The OP did say "I go months...YEARS without playing video games".


And the message I replied to said: "WiiU + PC will probably get you more coverage than PS4 + PC. As far as I can tell anyway...", which is not even close to truth.


not even close to truth

How so? The WiiU seems to me like the most likely to have a bunch of exclusives, if only because of the distinct architecture.


It will have a bunch exclusives but not as many as PS4 and X1.

Architecture has nothing to do with this - vast majority of exclusives comes from the first party studios (studios owned by the respective console manufacturer) and second parties (independent studio titles, published by the console manufacturer). There are some random third party (publishers like EA,Activision,Ubi etc) exclusives but from what I can tell Nintendo's are just shovel-ware (such as Carnival Games, variously branded "fitness" games, cartoon licensed titles etc.) while both Sony and MS enjoyed some AAA third party exclusives. There is no reason to believe the situation is going to change in the future - if anything it's going to be less of those since the major producer of Nintendo exclusive shovel-ware, THQ Inc, went bankrupt recently.

Out of the three console majors, Nintendo has the least first party studios - 7 (at least 3 of which are working on handhelds exclusively). Microsoft has the most. And Sony has the most first parties that actually ship games regularly.

So the only chance for Wii U to get more exclusives than PS4 is for Nintendo to contract a bunch of 2nd parties and/or sign a lot of exclusive contracts with the 3d parties. If this ever going to happen it's far from "likely" since it has not happened for the last 3 generations of consoles (Nintendo beating Sony on the exclusives).


A huge chunk of XBox1 and PS4 "exclusives" are available on PC. This fact is only going to be more true now that the XBox1 and PS4 are just (weaker) PCs. (using an AMD Jaguar with AMD7850-ish GPU)

Go down the lists yourself. http://www.ign.com/wikis/xbox-one/List_of_Xbox_One_Games http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/06/18/the-ps4-exclusives-you-...

The majority of these "exclusives", especially the big ones like TitanFall or Metal Gear Solid 5. Most of the Indie-game "exclusives" on PS4 are actually on Steam or will be on Steam. (ie: Transistor)

Nintendo Games however, have never really appeared on PC. No chance ever, especially because the WiiU gamepad is so unique. * Super Mario Bros 2 U * Pikmin 3 * Super Smash Bros. * MarioKart 8 * NintendoLand

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The next would be PS4, as there are more PS4 exclusives that aren't coming to PC. Finally, Microsoft tends to shoot itself in the foot and release all of their exclusives on PC anyway. So...

PC + WiiU for me. Possibly PS4 if Killzone is good enough, but thats $400 for a couple of games that I may or may not care about. (and may come to the PC anyway)


>A huge chunk of XBox1 and PS4 "exclusives" are available on PC.

It depends on your definition of "huge", I guess. I know just a few games like Halo 1 (and 2 maybe), Alan Wake, which were exclusives on varios xboxes and became available on PC at later time. Don't know any playstation games like that, at least from the recent generations.

Your list (the second link is a video I did not watch) only shows multi-platform, some of which is available on PC. Also I will remind you that this is not the list of all the games. A transition between generations is usually covered with multiplatforms to compensate for the small installed base. Check out the list of exclusives for Wii, PS3 and 360 to make a more realistic picture.

>Nintendo Games however, have never really appeared on PC. No chance ever, especially because the WiiU gamepad is so unique. * Super Mario Bros 2 U * Pikmin 3 * Super Smash Bros. * MarioKart 8 * NintendoLand

Neither had Sony's games. * Infamous 2 * God of War 3 * Playstation All Star Battle Royale * GT 6 * Playstation Home

I don't question your tastes, some people like Nintendo games (otherwise Nintendo had been out of business long time ago). But there is a huge logical leap between "I like these games" and "there are objectively more games like these".




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