I used the web in 1993, in the fall, with mosaic, and grey backgrounds. On a 286. With windows 3.1, and 16 colors.

So that makes it 20 years. (dangit!)

Anyway, I think javascript made a mess of it. The point of the web was to link documents. JS makes links obsolete, as they now are relegated to JS-app entry points.

before I get too much in the weeds, I'm gonna go read the article.

Shouldn't calling something "obsolete" mean it's no longer compatible or practical? Links work! They will always work!

The problem is not that JS is worst than links or forms. It's the most potent hypermedia technique (code-on-demand) but it lays behind the Turing horizon: you can't statically determine what it's doing.

What do you feel is the best that we have? I'm not preparing to raise an argument, merely asking for information. My own experience with user interface development outside of the web is pretty limited; I've created a few winform apps and done some OpenGL stuff in college, but that's basically it. Compared to those, I prefer the web stack.

I don't know about rimantas but I really wish CSS would adopt Cassowary like Apple adopted for Cocoa Autolayout. Way better than flexbox.

Cassowary is hands down the best tech for interfaces.