"Remember the discussion is about employers feeling entitled to owning employees time?"
No, that's actually not at all what this discussion is about. That's what OP's situation is about. My post made two points:
1) If a company is mismanaged or just plain taking advantage of you by requiring regular overtime, then leave such a company.
2) A company (not OP's company) who is well managed and does not require regular overtime, pay their wages on time etc, should be able to expect at least a little bit dedication from their employees. No you don't have to tattoo the product name on your chest, but it would suit you to help out your managers and colleagues in case of (rarely occurring) emergencies.
>should be able to expect at least a little bit dedication from their employees
No they shouldn't. They should expect exactly what they pay for, me to show up and do my job and then leave. If you want me to be invested in the company, then I need a stake in the company. It isn't complicated.
No, that's actually not at all what this discussion is about. That's what OP's situation is about. My post made two points:
1) If a company is mismanaged or just plain taking advantage of you by requiring regular overtime, then leave such a company.
2) A company (not OP's company) who is well managed and does not require regular overtime, pay their wages on time etc, should be able to expect at least a little bit dedication from their employees. No you don't have to tattoo the product name on your chest, but it would suit you to help out your managers and colleagues in case of (rarely occurring) emergencies.